Sunday, May 16, 2010

Before you read the next set of posts read this; Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Narcissistic Personality Disorder from Wilkpedia. As you read through the "comments" that I have put up, compare the "anonymous" ramblings to this description of a mental disease. Then draw some correlations between the comments, our treatment, and the description of this disorder. Items in green are mine.

The World Health Organization's ICD-10 lists narcissistic personality disorder under (F60.8) Other specific personality disorders.[5]

It is a requirement of ICD-10 that a diagnosis of any specific personality disorder also satisfies a set of general personality disorder criteria.

Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV):

The essential feature of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy that begins by early adulthood and is present in a variety of situations and environments. This describes any number of medical personnel to a tee. Especially those that leave me "comments."

In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms:

  • Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) Yes, yes.
  • Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love Yes, this is present in the posts. They all feel they should have unlimited power over us patients, at the very least. To hell with the law, patient wishes, long term damage from their ministrations, nothing should be allowed to stand in their way.
  • Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)(hospitals?) Judging by the "dumb ass," "stupid bitch," "moron," etc. statements and the highly amusing comment where she says "those in the medical field know what I'm talkin' 'bout," I'd say this is true.
  • Requires excessive admiration Yes.
  • Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations Hell yes! "automatic compliance" or we'll give you Versed and force you to comply with our wishes anyway.
  • Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends This is absolutely descriptive of the attitude of Versed pushers isn't it! "I am going to force you to take this med (and any other thing I may want to do, because I want to get paid enormous sums of money without any flack from a stupid patient) and if you don't like it, too bad, you are a 'stupid bitch.'" (among other trite epithets)
  • Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others These medical people who have posted most of the comments on my blog are very guilty of this.
  • Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her Not sure about this one, BUT, I only need five of these for a diagnosis. Since they all feel qualified (another symptom of the disorder) to pass judgement on me, I reserve the right to pass judgement on them!
  • Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes. Oh yes, yes, yes! Just read the comments!!!! Not to mention my documented treatment at the hands of these barbarians. Not even my surgery was properly done. Tsk, tsk.

There you have it! I may be a "stupid bitch" and all the rest of it, but you medical people who write me these comments need to have your head examined. Seriously. LITERALLY! "Physician heal thyself." Or little nursey poo, whatever. Ta ta, see you next time! Oh, and please allow me a little time to respond to your pearls of wisdom before you have a nervous breakdown over it. I'll let you display your mental disorder, I PROMISE!

Another "caring" medical person.

Here are some of the comments in no particular order. These may be found under the headings which they were made.

"Wow you people are crazy. Do us all a favor and stay away from hospitals" I guess if you expect for medical people to not only KNOW the law, but to follow it, this is excellent advice. I am definitely doing everything I can to stay away from freaks like this person. By the way there were a bunch of posts from "anonymous" probably all from the same basket case... Happy reading!

So did you want to be awake and remember them placing the laryngeal mask airway? It seems like the proper anesthesia would be to prevent you from those unpleasant experiences. The documented pressure of 80/30 is not saying that is where your blood pressure was for a half hour, just at the intervals that the anesthesiologist was documenting. Since at that time your pressure was slightly low (in surgery and general anesthesia it is acceptable to have lower blood pressures, it reduces the amount of bleeding/complications) giving you 1400cc of crystalloid, which most likely was normal saline or lactated ringers, was an appropriate intervention. Patients in surgery often come in dehydrated do to being instructed not to eat or drink anything for several hours. As a general rule a mean arterial blood pressure from 50-60 is appropriate for a patient under general anesthesia. The 10cc of EBL is estimated blood loss, 10cc is less than a table spoon (15ml), this is probably less blood than labs that were drawn before your surgery. As far as charging you from more medication than was administered, in many areas versed is only available in a 5ml/mg vial, therefore unless you want to share vials with other patients, which would be dangerous and illegal, you will be charged for vials that were opened even if the entire amount was not used. The lowest documented oxygen saturation on the page was 94%, anything above 92% is completely acceptable and adequate for not only cerebral perfusion, but normal everyday conciousness and body function. So you came out of the procedure with the same number of braincells you started with...... which is obviously inadequate.
Obviously this person's unbridled rage that we would dare question them has led to an inability to actually read what I wrote! I WAS AWAKE AND REMEMBERED THEM PLACING THE LARANGEAL MASK!!!!! I refused to have ga and therefore, no need for the darn laryngeal mask! I don't know how many times I have to put this in writing, but honey babe, just read the damn thing before you go off half cocked! You idiots relied on Versed to create amnesia, which I DID NOT GET! I did not give permission for any general anesthesia whatsoever. I did not sign a document giving permission for general anesthesia. Read the documents. I did not give permission for any drugs that would incapacitate me. I was very specific about this. They SHOULD HAVE REFUSED TO TREAT ME UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, if they were that incompetent. It is NEVER OK to deliberately and maliciously defy the patients' instructions. If you will simply read the documents, see that there is NOTHING about sedation or general anesthetic, except in the replaced document made up one day after I had surgery to cover their sorry butts. You know the one that OMITS FOUR MAJOR SURGERIES ON MY FEMUR! My signature does not appear on the document. Look at where he (Aaron CRNA) wrote that the anesthesia plan was explained AND ACCEPTED! I did no such thing. Show me where I signed that I was OK with ga after saying NO at least a hundred times. Show me one single sentence anywhere which says one single thing about sedation, amnesia, obedience or anything at all about it. The arrogant little nurse TOLD me that he wanted to give me ga, which I vigorously declined and said NOTHING about any sedation, since I had already refused any such drugs.. The hospital was CITED for disobeying the law in this aspect and many others. Or could you read that? As for sharing vials of Versed... Are you freakin' kidding me? They should not have been using Versed at all, I don't CARE about what's left over. I got plenty of it in an attempt to get that compliance and amnesia anyway!
That being said, thanks for answering my questions about the EBL. You are right about being a dummy in that regard. Estimated Blood Loss. I am thinking I should have been able to figure out that acronym... "...crystalloid which most likely was normal saline or lactated ringers..." So this "crystalloid" is what was already in my IV? Is this so they can charge me more for having a different name for the same thing? This makes no sense. I had an IV which contained fluid. What would be the point of this crystalloid? As for the last helpful sentence; "So you came out of the procedure with the same number of braincells you started with... which is obviously inadequate. Would you care to qualify that with another post? I would like to see scientific proof that you know how many brain cells I started with and how you quantify my adequacy or inadequacy? Are you psychic? You have no way of knowing this. Just because I was attacked by you or somebody like YOU WHO FELT THAT THEY KNOW ME BETTER THAN I KNOW MYSELF, doesn't indicate an inadequacy of brain cells in ME. The Versed, which causes problems within the brain (which is exactly why you give it) was given to me without my knowledge or consent. This person broke the law because, like you, he felt that I was unworthy of proper care. I could extrapolate from that, that you are the one with the inadequacy...or should I say mental problem? As for the low blood pressure... Sure I am going to buy that my blood pressure dropped precipitously every time they checked it, but was fine all the time they WEREN'T checking it. You really do think I'm stupid don't you? They also had to put me on some kind of machine that squeezed my feet? I only know this because there was a charge of nearly $200 for some kind of booties... to use with a machine to help with my blood pressure. For somebody whose surgery is routinely (and preferably, as shown in many medical articles, not to mention the only way I was going to allow surgery to proceed) done with just the nerve block and pain meds this was quite a shock. This should not have been a surprise. Do you get that? Keep in mind that I have paradoxical reactions to ga drugs. Apparently I fight them even under ga. They have to give me enough drugs to "stop an elephant." There is no need for this. Just leave me awake. This is not an assumption on my part. I have ample proof that this is what works best on me. You have no right to decide what risks I will take just to make your job easier. It's against the law to treat me like that.
Does Versed cause a drop in oxygen saturation? If not, then how can you point to oxygen saturation as proof that Versed doesn't damage the brain. Obviously it DOES DAMAGE IT, prevent it from functioning as it was intended, WITH full oxygen saturation, otherwise you would not use it. You have no way of quantifying this either. One has nothing to do with the other. Try again.

my post from last night isn't here.... perhaps it made you look to stupid? I am very sorry that you feel slighted. I understand how upsetting it must be to have somebody appear to ignore you and your vituperative comments! I, however, have a life and I don't get on here all that often. Take a shot of Versed and forget about it! As for being afraid I will look stupid? Not really, it has been known to happen. Do you know the difference between colloquial "stupid" and "ignorant?" Let me explain... "Stupid" as you seem to mean it would be mentally slow? Unable to follow simple direction? (As in shut up and let us humiliate you and give you all the things you said you didn't want you "stupid bitch.") Or do you really mean ignorant in some aspects of medical care? I TRUSTED you people to explain FULLY and to respect the law as it pertains to informed consent. (That was "stupid" wasn't it?) Never in my wildest imaginings did I think you had a patient control drug like Versed, OR that you would actually use it on me in order to force me to accept your chosen treatment, over my objections. I was absolutely ignorant. Your job was to enlighten me. So who is at fault here, me, for not being a trained medical person and trusting your expertise, or YOU who are charged with following the law and obtaining informed consent after revealing ALL of what your devious little plans are?

"if you weren't afraid of common sense you would let people post repliles to your blog" Same as above. Also, it is very tempting for "stupid" me to correct your sentence structure, punctuation, spelling and capitalization, but I won't.

"your dumb ass signed it!" What you really mean is that I am the "dumb ass" who trusted you people. I did NOT sign a proper informed consent. Please look at the law and see what information IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO BE ON THE DOCUMENT. The hospital got cited and had to re-write the whole thing so that it conformed to the LAW. Since you want to get nasty; na, na na, you got in trouble, ha, ha, ha! The Joint Commission wasn't very happy either! Who is the "dumb ass" now? Had to make up a whole new "informed consent" which actually has information in it. Pages and pages of "informed consent" with names, descriptions and all the rest of the items REQUIRED BY LAW! Can't trick the patients now, can you! Hardy har har.

"i hearby authorize you to be a stupid bitch and sign all these permits to allow treatment and then deny it after your realize your too stupid to realize what i signed." No wonder my medical people couldn't understand the law, or that they are required to follow it. They couldn't figure out what the word "NO" meant. If you can't write proper English, can you at least understand it when spoken to you? What part of NO did you not get? The syntax, spelling and incoherency of this post is confusing to me. I get the stupid bitch part.

As for the rest of it, you "get" that the document in question is NOT AN INFORMED CONSENT DON'T YOU? So since the law does not recognise the document as a valid informed consent, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? At no time did I sign "all these permits" to allow treatment. All WHAT permits? (plural) It is YOUR JOB to supply me with all information that I need to make an informed decision. If I say no, it doesn't mean go ahead without telling me. That isn't what informed consent is about. Jeez how hard is that concept to grasp?

I said no, in no uncertain terms, with explanations. I said it over and over. So they simply shot me up with Versed (also against my will) and did whatever they wanted without consent. For proof look at CRNA Aaron's explanation to the nursing board. He clearly states that I gave consent for ga by "not objecting." He omitted that he had heavily sedated me prior to this lack of objection. You cannot give consent after being sedated! If I had signed an "informed consent" wouldn't this CRNA have pointed to it and said "See, she signed an informed consent which clearly outlines what I was going to do?" There was no valid "informed consent" ergo he had to make up something. The law says no dice.

Are all of you this insane about Versed? Do you have feelings that the law should not pertain to you? Do you hear voices from inside and what do they tell you to do? (scratch that, that was mean) Do you feel a burning uncontrollable need to use this kind of language to express your hatred and intolerance of all patients? Yeah, yeah I know, it's only those patients who take exception to your cavalier disregard for our rights, dignity and our supposed ability to stop you from doing whatever the hell you want to us helpless, trusting patients. You only like patients who treat you with adoration and look upon you as their savior. Have you always had this problem? Is that why you got in to medicine, so that you could knock people in the head, abuse them, torture them and be a GOD?

Last, but not least, cupcake, I don't need YOUR authorization to be a "stupid bitch" or anything else. Boy you control freaks are really something! You are giving me "authorization?" OMG! Tee hee!

"dont sign a consent for anesthia you stupid bitch!" Isn't this tedious? Really, can't you find some other more entertaining, imaginative, phrase to call me? "Stupid bitch" this and "stupid bitch" that. I didn't sign a consent for anesthesia. That is a simple declarative sentence, can you follow it? Again; I didn't sign a consent for anesthesia. It didn't do me any good to withhold a signature for anesthesia, as there wasn't an informed consent to sign for anesthesia anyway. (I assume you meant "anesthesia" and not "anesthia," or is this another medical word I am ignorant of?)

There you are sweety pie. I put all your posts right up here on the blog in post format. I also have your replies right where you put them. Are you feeling better? Wouldn't want you to go work on innocent trusting patients with your feelings of hostility and inadequacy...

Sunday, May 9, 2010

Girl with Cancer is Abused with Versed

I know, it's a shocking title, but that is all there is to it. This child who was already suffering, had her suffering compounded by careless, callous medical "professionals, using the vile drug Versed." Thanks Paula for bringing this to my attention! Here's the link. Sedation Free Help For Cancer

Monday, May 3, 2010

Versed as Control Drug

"After 10 milligrams of Midazolam he saw it our way and we were able to get him to the operating room table and start the case." This jewel is from www.nurseanesthetist.org

First of all this is way too much Midazolam. Apparently they don't read package inserts, they bought Roche's claim that the drug is harmless in absurdly high doseages, or they don't give a damn about patients, patient rights, the law or anything else. Secondly, notice the snide "he saw it OUR way." Anyway this man was drugged into submission. Was it legal? Should it be? Under what cicumstances should medical people be allowed to use chemical coercion to facilitate their plan? The current law says NEVER, but I am interested in the mindset of somebody who would assume that forced chemical coercion is "seeing things their way." You don't really believe that this patient "saw things their way" or any other way after he was forced into submission by this much Versed do you?

Notice how depersonalized this sentence is. "...we were able to get him to the operating room and start the case." "Start the case." My my, nothing human about this scenario! It isn't "help the patient," "begin treatment," "sew him up" nothing at all that would make one think that they were working on a human being, much less one who did not want their ministrations. I don't think that this person was in custody, so where do these medical people get off forcing treatment on somebody? Especially 10 milligrams of a horrible drug like Versed!

I have to find the information which states that this 10 milligrams is a yikes amount and that in that doseage there could be brain damage, hypoxia, etc. It's a wonder they didn't kill him. He resisted their kind concerned care, so they knocked him down with excessive amounts of a dangerous drug, KNOWN TO CAUSE PARADOXICAL REACTIONS and forced treatment on him.

Still Trust these People?

This one is from Cleary's Notebook. (www.ClearysNoteBook.com) I have long said that mandatory random drug testing should be implimented for medical personnel. They have unlimited access to drugs and therefore are at even greater risk of developing drug dependance than the rest of us. Don't bother to argue that these drugs are in locked cabinets, YOU or somebody you know has the keys. OR, you can do like these lovely people who are responsible for our safety and well-being allegedly did and simply "divert" drugs for their own use... They don't LOOK like monsters do they?

Four Lehigh Valley Nurses Arrested for Stealing Pain Medications

November 25, 2009


Tracy Goetter

Lisa Citrola

Christopher Evans

Krista Lichtenberger

HARRISBURG - Four nurses, who worked for the Lehigh Valley Health Network, were charged today with diverting prescription pain medication from the hospitals where they worked. They allegedly took the drugs for their own personal use.

Attorney General Tom Corbett identified the defendants as:

  • Tracy Goetter, 48, 54 E. Station Ave., Coopersburg;
  • Lisa Citrola, 48, 2094 Fieldstone Dive, Bethlehem;
  • Christopher Evans, 31, 909 Barn View Lane, Breinigsville; and,
  • Krista Lichtenberger, 25, 725 10th Ave., Bethlehem.

Tracy Goetter
Goetter, a nurse in the Cardiac Cath Lab at Muhlenberg Hospital, allegedly diverted waste Fentanyl in an effort to make her own Fentanyl patches for personal use.

The charges, Goetter started diverting the drug waste during her last two weeks of work, in late spring 2009. According to hospital records, during the final weeks of Goetter's employment, 850 mcg of Fentanyl waste was recorded, but it is unclear how much of that was diverted for her personal use.


Lisa Citrola
Corbett said that Citrola was also a nurse at Muhlenberg Hospital and worked in the emergency room.

According to the criminal complaint, Citrola allegedly diverted significant amounts of the powerful prescription drug Dilaudid for her personal use.

Corbett said that Citrola allegedly began diverting Dilaudid waste in August 2007. As her addiction grew, the waste was allegedly not enough to feed her addiction. The charges state that Citrola began signing out the drug in patients' names and used the drug for personal use.

According to the criminal complaint, in December 2008, Citrola started to inject herself at work in the bathroom. Corbett said that 195 mg of Dilaudid and 644 mg of Morphine were missing from the hospital during that time.

Christopher Evans
Corbett said that Evans was a nurse at the Cedar Crest Campus of Lehigh Valley Hospital where he allegedly diverted Fentanyl and Midazolam.

The charges state the Evans initially diverted the drugs once a week in May 2009, but increased to four or five times in June and then daily in July.

According to the criminal complaint, other employees witnessed Evans dispose of the drug waste, but it was later determined that this waste was saline.

Agents estimate that Evans diverted 7887.5 mcg of Fentanyl, which is equal to 78 vials and 47 mg of Midazolam.

Krista Lichtenberger
Corbett said that Lichtenberger, an emergency room nurse at Muhlenberg Hospital, allegedly accessed a Pyxis machine on her day off to obtain prescription medications. A Pyxis machine is a type of vending machine nurses use to obtain medications for patients.

The charges state that Lichtenberger removed 750 mc of Fentanyl, 11 mg of Hydromorphone and 400 mg of Meperidine for her personal use.

"Our Bureau of Narcotics Investigation agents are very active in investigating medical professionals who are illegally using prescription pain medication," Corbett said. "It is a potentially dangerous situation if the person you trust with your medical care is under the influence of drugs."

Goetter, Citrola, Evans and Lichtenberger are all charged with acquisition of a controlled substance by fraud, forgery, deception or subterfuge, a felony, and one count of possession of a controlled substance, a misdemeanor. They face a maximum penalty of 16 years in prison and $255,000 in fines.

Goetter, Citrola and Lichtenberger were arraigned before Bethlehem Magisterial District Judge Wayne Maura. Evans was arraigned before Allentown Magisterial District Judge Anthony Rapp.

Corbett thanked the Lehigh Valley Health Network for their assistance with the investigation.

The case will be prosecuted in Lehigh County by Lehigh County District Attorney Jim Martin's Office.

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(A person charged with a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty.)

Sunday, May 2, 2010

Interesting Doctor's Sexual Abuse Case

Doctor's possible defense: alleged sex assaults were hallucinations


A couple of things jumped out at me while reading this article; This comment; "Dr. Glen Gabbard, director of Baylor Psychiatry Clinic in Houston, stated in a 1991 American Health article that sexual exploitation of patients is "a very common phenomenon" and that the number of false accusations is "infinitely small" compared with cases of real abuse.

"You don't want someone to be using anesthetic agents as a way to satisfy some sort of perverse agenda," said Dr. Butterworth. REALLY? Isn't it perverse on its face that we are getting a drug, Versed/Midazolam, designed specifically to hide abuse?

(Gotta love this one) "Medical journals note that with modern medicine, this side effect (sexual "hallucinations") though uncommon, has resulted in false and career crushing allegations against practitioners; it has also prompted some doctors to take advantage of drugs' "amnesic effects" to cover up actual assaults on patients." (italics mine)

I saved the best for last; "I feel it would be inappropriate to ask" about those experiences (sexual misconduct after drugging the patient) she said. (Dr. Erin Sullivan) "But if the patient volunteered the information, I would explain. We obtained informed consent. I don't go through all the side effects. That's not standard of care." Better re-read that! It's "not standard of care" to reveal side effects. How was informed consent obtained without revealing side effects? This is a violation of the law. Obviously Dr. Erin Sullivan, "who teaches anesthesiology and runs the cardiothoracic department at UPMC Presebytarian" has absolutely no clue what informed consent is, what the law is or anything else about patient rights. This is basically my point. Informed consent has nothing to do with being informed. It has to do with arrogant people like Dr. Erin pointing to a piece of paper purported to be "informed consent" which probably reveals nothing, that absolves her of all wrongdoing.

Just MY opinion folks! If you don't like it, change your evil ways. Quit using these drugs without proper informed consent which outlines the effects and side effects. Just as an aside, having your crotch groped, fondled, touched and threaded with a catheter just might make people think they are being abused, especially if they have been drugged! Having your breasts squeezed, touched and hooked up to a machine might make people think they are being abused, especially if absolutely none of this was explained ahead of time as the law of informed consent demands. Even if there was no sexual intent, there was still sexual contact.

Saturday, April 24, 2010

Confusion about Sexual Battery

OK, for those of you who take umbrage at our comparison between rape, sexual battery, child molestation and your forced injection of Versed, let me draw you some verbal diagrams. I might like to add false imprisonment to these charges.

The patient goes to the Doctor for help. The Doctor and his minions CONCEAL their true intentions to render you a compliant piece of meat and have their way with you. Once you are on their turf, you accept an IV and they surriptitiously inject you with a drug which usually causes amnesia and perfect obedience. You cannot object even if you try because your psycho motor skills are now non existent. Slurred or incoherent speech is also a feature of Versed. You also are suffering from the "anti-conflict" component of this drug Versed. You cannot escape. You are now their prisoner. You can't sign out against medical advice and you can't make them stop. They claim that they have your permission to do this (debatable) and you can't retract that permission once they drug you. (also debatable) You, the patient, who trusted these people with your very life are now totally helpless while they abuse your body and make crude comments about you. If you are able to struggle they will place you in restraints and continue the abuse. Maybe they will give you general anesthesia to get more control and more money, but they won't release you.

They torture you, watching you scream and writhe in pain. They violate EVERY ORIFICE that you have. If you are having colonoscopy, or just a simple procedure, you are subjected to having your sexual organs exposed and breached. You get a tube "rammed down your throat." (according to another post) You get tubes shoved up your urethra while they all giggle and watch (ten or twenty of them along with drug salesmen and anybody else who wants to get in on the action.) You will have prostate or pelvic exams if you are in a teaching hospital, also without your knowledge or consent. (At least that's what they hope for with the amnesia part of Versed.) But since you went to the medical center in the first place willingly they will say that this degradation is all part and parcel of getting "help."

Then you go home to find that you now have a preventable kidney infection and possibly other medical problems as a result of them treating you like an object instead of a human being. Your friends can't believe that 1) medical people have a drug like this, 2)that they would sneak it into you. (Remember the so-called "informed consent" that everybody allegedly signs, and patients rely on?) And 3) that medical people would behave like this, especially a whole group of them. You are a target of hate now for saying these things about such wonderful life saving people.

You are humiliated, ashamed, angry and frightened. You don't feel like a human being any more. You now have PTSD like symptoms and are put on Prozac, Amitriptiline, Lexapro or some other drug.

Contrast that scenario with this one.

You go on a date in a public place with a charming, highly regarded professional man. You meet some of his friends at this place. They are all funny and polite, including some women. You accept a soda pop from them and suddenly you find that you are woozy. You know something is wrong, but you can't get your legs to work. The charming date and his friends help you to their car.

For the next few hours or more, you are sexually abused by this group of people. You are going in and out of consciousness. You are trying to scream for help and make them stop. They continue. Your crotch, anus, and throat are violated. You are totally helpless. They simply force more drug down your throat if you get too out of control. The drug they use makes you obedient, so that even while you are objecting, you are still obeying their orders. They tell you that once you have gone "this far" that you can't stop them.

After the horror of it all these people drop you off apparently safe and sound, although violated, in front of your house. Your friends just can't believe that these particular individuals would EVER do this. The highly regarded individuals claim that they had your complete consent to do this. After all you DID willingly go out with them. You obeyed their commands while under the influence and this is construed as; you were a willing participant. They might even claim that it never happened, you are hallucinating or a drunk. Nobody believes that there is any drug which will cause this kind of reaction. You are a target of hate now for saying these things about such wonderful people.

You are humiliated, ashamed, angry and frightened. You don't feel like a real human being any more. Then you discover that you have an STD, and other medical problems. You also have PTSD which is treated with Prozac, Amitriptiline, Lexapro etc.

Is this getting clearer yet?

As for the child molestation, there are parallels. Children are helpless. They are subject to the whims and desires of the adults around them. They are easily controlled and if the molestation is from a family friend or member, there are obedience and trust issues which go along with the violation. Patients are being treated as trusting children to be violated at will. And, like a dear family friend, priest, scout leader, PTA member, parent, police officer, teacher etc. the abuse from highly regarded medical people is hard to imagine or believe.

BELIEVE IT!

P.S. These scenarios completely disregard the very real physical reaction to Versed. The jangled nerves, cognizant disfunction, memory loss etc. I am only dealing with behavior in this post, not paradoxical reactions to Versed.