Friday, September 30, 2011
FridaWrites has left a new comment on your post ""Why I Hate Anesthesia" by Frida":
Thanks for the link to and discussion of my post--though I haven't been blogging for a while, this is an issue I still feel very strongly about. For me, it's a temporary amnesiac rather than a permanent one--and I remember exactly what happens later.
However, I have long-term memory problems from anesthesia, which led to forgetting massive amounts of information I had learned for my job over several years before my surgeries and procedures. I remembered learning it, but nothing of the content. My memory was near photographic before. Also, word retrieval problems persist.
Frida I have a hypothesis that Versed affects bright minds the worst. *I* used to write humorous short stories, but I'm not so good at that any more 6 YEARS later. I've had general anesthetic 6 times prior to Versed and I NEVER had this kind of long term problems with it... Just with Versed.
My story is in these pages and it follows yours pretty much. I remembered everything right up until the general anesthetic, which I had forbidden along with any drugs like Versed. Then I was "awake and alert" afterwards for some time, which I have zero recall of. I have a snippet of the nurse asking me if I knew where I was, and I snapped at her "I'm in the hospital, LEAVE ME ALONE." Next time I came to in mid sentence on my feet in a murderous rage. Very odd. This drug has permanently altered the characteristics of my brain. It's bad stuff for smart people!
Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Friday, March 7, 2008
2. While awake, reveal your deepest secrets, ones you had not even thought were secrets because the Conscious and Unconscious never conferred and said, "hey, maybe you don't want to say that." Realize with horror what you say at the time, but there's a disconnect between lips and brain. The lips are in control. The brain looks on but is unable to act to save itself. There are things that only two people should know about, and the other person is not someone in the surgery room. Make other confessions about issues you haven't even clarified with yourself and are not even sure are entirely true.
3. Eventually, have a reaction to the anesthesia because you are recovering from a respiratory infection that's lasted weeks and you didn't want to keep postponing. Uncontrollable coughing where you cannot take in any air. Wake up as doctor pats you on the back and says that you need to stop coughing. Try to stop coughing, but keep coughing. Tell nurse to remove socks because you're too hot, and you know being hot makes you cough more. Get drowsy again. Think you're at home. Ask someone to rub your back, thinking it's your husband. Wake up again when people laugh. Say something about sex and backrubs and husband. People stop laughing. Realize you've said something really wrong.
4. Conclude from surgery prep and someone messing with your very low back that sexual assault by some random stranger is about to happen. And that you're unable to act. Give doctor an earful and chewing out. Later, remember not being still. For a spinal procedure. Pass out again.
5. Wake up a minute later shrieking in 12-level pain on a scale of 10. Shake all over, uncontrollably, from pain. Hear doctor say, "good grief." Pray aloud for Gabriel and Michael to intercede on your behalf, because God seems to have taken a step back. Pass out again. Seconds later, yell at husband to turn music in the surgery room off and let the dog out. Apologize, saying you thought you were at home again (as if you shriek at people at home). Pass out again.
(If during wisdom tooth extraction, freak out about huge metal thing being put in your mouth and what's happening to your teeth. Realize this won't last forever. Pray you'll pass out again. Pass out again.
If during colonoscopy, freak out nurse and GI doctor (oh yes, very long time since you've seen her) by suddenly saying, "cool," and asking about the pictures on the screen.)
6. Wake up again. Say something about how this is a lot like time travel. Pass out again. Hear random comments of anesthesiologist, and respond to them with your own opinion. Everyone stops talking.
7. Wake up again when they're transferring you. The anesthesiologist tells you they almost had to stop the procedure completely, that they gave you Versed, the truth serum, after waking you up from the other drug and letting it wear off a little. Recognizing "Versed" and you don't mix, ask over and over, "I didn't say anything did I? Did I?"
8. Doctor comes in to talk to you and husband. He looks concerned but won't look your husband in the eye.
9. Get dressed. Realizing your socks are not on, recognize that those distant memories of discussing them with the nurse and the other memories did not happen ten years ago and weren't some weird dream but happened within the last half hour.
10. Remember later there's always a follow-up appointment scheduled--which you've been known to "forget." Can't forget with this doctor, follow-up too important.
11. Go to restroom. Look in mirror as you wash your hands. Look in horror at burst blood vessels around your eyes from coughing so much and not getting enough air.
12. Resolve not to go under again.
13. Later, when doctor recommends going under again, say that you don't think that's a good idea. Be glad he's so nice as to say, "oh...but you were sick then." Stupidly agree to go under again.
14. Hope that this time you won't talk on Versed.
Thursday, September 15, 2011
The crna also claimed that I was "very relaxed" after the injection. No honey I wasn't. The crna has no clue as to what I was really feeling. The blood pressure and heart rate acceleration should have told him the opposite was true. I was "very relaxed" before the injection and not after. Then he falsely claimed that I was "screaming in pain and would not hold still." That lie would have worked if I had gotten the amnesia which HE desired and *I* did not. Anyway, since then the medical community has attacked me personally. demanded empirical evidence, you know the kind of evidence that they are desperately trying to prevent! Versed isn't the only problem in the medical community and their refusal to face the truth.
I read this article over on http://www.drkevinmd.com/ When people decide not to vaccinate their children, I take it personally
Yet another Dr. takes personal choice PERSONALLY! If you don't accede to their demands in re vaccinations, they get upset. Then come all the denials that vaccinations EVER cause harm. The denial that the people responsible for the drug being on the market are the very ones who do the studies. Just because a drug company has a HUGE financial stake in selling these drugs and/or vaccines doesn't make any difference right? Everybody knows that drug companies are the most altruistic companies around and have no desire to make money...
Let me say this. If the medical community LIES and refuses to believe that there is any risk with a drug, they lose credibility. There are risks with vaccines. Look at the boondoggle with the HPV vaccine. Look at the deliberate scare mongering which goes on every single year with the flu vaccines. The side effects are minimized, but by how much? We can't trust anybody to tell us the truth, because it would interfere with attempts to scare us into using their product.
Does anybody know how much it costs for all these childhood vaccines? My insurance company balked at paying for my daughters vaccines about 10 years ago. IT WAS OVER 600 DOLLARS FOR THE NURSE TO GIVE HER A COUPLE OF SHOTS!!! The insurance company only had to pay $100. What a ripoff! This kind of crap makes us suspect that this is only a money making proposition. All of the medical people are talking about how tort reform can save us all kinds of money... Oh REALLY! Vaccine reactions are not prosecutable now are they? If you or your kid get any kind of severe reaction, you are on your own pal! Nobody has any accountability at all for bad reactions to vaccines. HAS IT MADE THEM CHEAPER? Not so I could tell.
Anyway, the above article explains the visceral hatred of medical workers toward all of us who criticise their precious drug Versed and their unholy zeal to inject us ALL with it. IT'S PERSONAL! LOL Amazing!
As an aside for the fear mongering doctor above who is personally affronted by parents choice, why don't we stop importing people with communicable diseases? HMMM? If it's so important to have a vaccination to prevent all these illnesses, doesn't it follow that maybe prevention IS the best way to go? So why put us all at risk for diseases, especially those which we have eradicated in the past and are now coming back from other countries? Maybe its deliberate so that they can sell more vaccinations? Why would you feel animosity towards parents who quite rightly are skeptical of all the "epidemics," "pandemics," and "global threats" when we deliberately import those same diseases? I can't take all this alleged "concern" for disease seriously under these circumstances.
Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Emergence Delirium in Children: Many Questions, Few Answers
This is a very interesting study which shows a correlation between Sevoflurane and emergence delirium. This is a study of children, but apparently it also applies to people like me and others.
Here is a quote from the article;
"On the other hand, there are studies in which midazolam premedication did not show any benefit on the quality of recovery from anesthesia (70–72). This finding may possibly be the result of applying a nonspecific measuring tool or a provision of inadequate pain control (70,72). The combination of midazolam and a small dose of diazepam may extend the beneficial effects of premedication until the recovery phase, which decreases the incidence of EA/ED (73). Paradoxically, Cole et al. (16) reported an almost ninefold higher risk of the development of EA in children who were premedicated with midazolam over those who were not premedicated before outpatient surgery under either isoflurane or halothane anesthesia. Benzodiazepines themselves are associated with paradoxical reactions and agitation that are reversed with flumazenil (13,74). Furthermore, the antianalgesic effects of midazolam might worsen pain and increase the incidence of nonspecific agitation that resembles ED (75). However, the results of this study may be disputed because of a lack of randomization in the selection process.
Premedication with melatonin has proven to be a good alternative to midazolam in reducing postoperative excitement (76)."
Pretty good stuff. Some of it is unfortunately pro Versed, but at least they have stated that the opposite can be true in the above statements.
Monday, September 12, 2011
Short but sweet quote;
Saturday, September 10, 2011
I want people to read this, so I have reproduced the entire article here as well;
General anesthesia and surgery in some cases may hasten cognitive decline—or even the onset of Alzheimer’s disease. These findings from a study in 11 patients were presented at the 2011 annual meeting of the International Anesthesia Research Society (abstract S-242), and showed that levels of key molecular markers of neuronal injury increased in the days after patients underwent endoscopic procedures.
“We don’t know if this change has clinical relevance or not,” said study co-author Roderic Eckenhoff, MD, professor of anesthesia at the University of Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia. “But, at this point it’s an intriguing finding.”
Doctors have long known that a significant number of older adults experience cognitive changes in the weeks and months after undergoing general anesthesia and surgery. Immediately after procedures, up to 20% of people aged 65 years and older experience cognitive changes that last weeks, months or even longer, according to Dr. Eckenhoff. “This is a very, very common complaint from patients,” he said. “We don’t know what causes it. We know it happens.”
It also is not clear whether patients ever fully recover from that decline. Dr. Eckenhoff said the possibility that something about the surgical experience decreases cognition transiently, but also interacts with other brain pathways to cause problems that only emerge later. Results of in vitro and animal studies suggest that the combination of anesthesia and surgery can adversely affect the pathologic pathways underlying Alzheimer’s and other similar disease processes. Dr. Eckenhoff said that patients already vulnerable to neurodegeneration might be most at risk.
To better understand what happens in the human brain after general anesthesia and surgery, the investigators collected samples of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) from eight women and three men (aged 53±6 years) undergoing surgery to correct idiopathic CSF leaks, for which lumbar catheters were placed. CSF samples were obtained before and immediately after surgery, and at six, 24 and 48 hours or until the catheter was removed. Approximately half of the patients received total IV anesthesia (TIVA); the remainder received inhaled anesthetics.
The investigators noted a significant increase in S100b and total tau—both markers of neuronal injury—after six hours. By 24 hours, tau had increased more than 200%. The proinflammatory biomarker interleukin-6 appeared to increase more in the inhalation group than in the TIVA group. “That would suggest that elements of our management—how we do general anesthesia—could in fact affect the progression of inflammatory cascades in the brain,” Dr. Eckenhoff told Anesthesiology News.
He cautioned that none of the data generated so far call for a change in practice. But there is enough evidence pointing to a problem to warrant more investigation. “The way I characterize it, there’s a smoking gun but no victim yet,” he said.
Dr. Eckenhoff said that although the data are compelling enough that he administers more regional anesthesia in his older patients whenever possible, he would “hesitate to tell other practitioners to change their practice. The data are still pretty weak at this point.” In the meantime, his group is investigating ways in which anesthesia does not cause cognitive decline.
The cognitive impact of anesthesia is a controversial research topic that has generated varied findings, according to Zhongcong Xie, MD, PhD, associate professor of anesthesia at Harvard Medical School and attending anesthesiologist at Massachusetts General Hospital, in Boston. “For a long time, people were thinking anesthesia is pretty safe,” he told Anesthesiology News. A patient who emerged from surgery with fully functioning heart and lungs would be assessed by many doctors as having no problems. But, he said, more and more doctors are beginning to accept that “maybe this is something we should be looking at—the brain.”
Dr. Xie, who was not involved with the current study, described it as a “good start.” What researchers really need, he said, are more human studies that measure the clinical impact of anesthetics. “If you want to have a final answer you should do a functional study, follow patients for 10 or more years and see if they develop Alzheimer’s disease. But, adequately powered prospective human studies would take many years to conduct and analyze.”
Looking at biomarkers is a good first step, Dr. Xie said. These biomarkers are present in high concentrations in CSF, but in order to sample a large, diverse group of patients, researchers have to find ways to measure their blood levels. Relevant animal studies also must be conducted that will complement human studies by establishing a mechanistic hypothesis and help formulate a strategy of prevention and treatment, he said.
Researchers should continue to investigate these patterns, including whether particular drugs or patient characteristics pose more of a risk, Dr. Xie said. “There are many patients with early stages of Alzheimer’s having surgery every year; we need to study if these drugs promote their disease.”
Why would my surgeon and everybody else involved in my care prefer to give me brain damage over doing my surgery with ONLY regional anesthesia and a pain killer? Especially in light of the fact that I refused any sedation or general anesthetic? Here's an excellent statement; “For a long time, people were thinking anesthesia is pretty safe,” he told Anesthesiology News. A patient who emerged from surgery with fully functioning heart and lungs would be assessed by many doctors as having no problems. But, he said, more and more doctors are beginning to accept that “maybe this is something we should be looking at—the brain.”
Some quotes from the article (linked above) "Hospital morbidity and mortality reports for the past decade find IV Versed responsible for death after death. It is a dangerous drug, and in case no one knows, one of the top causes of outpatient surgical death is over-medication with IV drugs. The problem is obviously not seen in every patient, or every practice, but events that can happen one in a thousand cases can kill your patient and career. My opinion is that IV drugs just are not indicated in hair transplantation."
Well thank God this guy gets it almost right... He still thinks that IM (intramuscular) Versed is fine. He mentions the amnesia. Why does everybody need amnesia? Why can't we just have pain killer instead?
StopDU has left a new comment on your post "HEARTBREAKING!":
Thank you so very kindly for your note in response to my post about Jenny. I am so happy to hear your daughter made it through...
But I am very sad to read how Versed really messed you up. This is so tremendously tragic and UNnecessary... We need to raise awareness. I had no idea Jenny would be given something with these lethal effects. (name omitted)
Yes, we do all we can possibly do to try to protect our kids, get them (what we think is) the best care possible, and then... things go wrong with these drugs - things we were never even told could happen... And, adding insult to injury, when dental patients are deprived of Oxygen for so very long after they go south (fairly common in dental offices when these life-threatening emergencies occur)... the kids suffer severe, severe brain damage, often have seizures, go into comas, and eventually stop breathing. This, of course, shatters the survivors' world. Our children die because we were told they "must" have the wisdom teeth removed.
Now I'd rather have her live with crooked teeth. Few people die from having crooked teeth.
Nurse practitioners and their relationships with pharma
Here we are, patients fed up with being doped, drugged and abused, physically and mentally in the very places that we should be safe and every day it seems there are more and more people being allowed to do just that. I agree with Dr. Kevin, these nurses should have oversight, just like doctors. If they are slamming drugs into patients or pumping people full of pills, we do need to examine their relationships with big pharma. Look at the stats in the above article and see just how many of these nurses BELIEVE the pharma reps! I think it is direct reverse proportion to the number of nurses who believe the patient when told how bad a drug REALLY is.
Then these same medical workers pretend to be shocked that their patients are becoming violent. We are tired of being treated like dirt! Here is the article about that!
Understanding patient violence against health care workers
In the above article Dr. Kevin has some opinions on the increase of violence in health care. I have some ideas too! (big surprize, right?) How about treating us like human beings instead of lab rats? It doesn't take a lot of time to be pleasant. Yes I can understand the mentally ill people and violent aggressive gang banger types can nudge health care workers into the "screw them all" attitude, but that's not right, any more than it would be right for me to ASSUME that all health care workers are mentally challenged just because a group of them that *I* ran into were. (and some more of them online, but that's another story)
Another hint; If health care workers treat us like animals, then they can't be all shocked and alarmed when we treat them the same. If we can't get your attention and can't get you to treat us like real people, then expect these attempts to escalate into violence with a growing number of patients and their families. If you give us drugs, designed to turn us into amoeba's and destroy our self control, expect that destruction to also have a negative impact on patient behavior. I was violent in the PACU due to Versed and the absolute disregard for me as a person. You can't slap us down like we are nothing, and then expect civility! It just doesn't work like that.
Thursday, September 8, 2011
CCHR: Big Pharma—Define 'Better' - YouTube
Monday, September 5, 2011
Come on medical people, enough is enough. Amnesia is NOT sedation. Sedation is a seperate thing from amnesia and you know it! Being ASLEEP is NOT the same as having amnesia. This statement is among the more stupid things I have heard about amnesia. General anesthetic ISN'T "unconscious sedation!" You better know the difference between being out cold and being sedated. Although medical people can't seem to differentiate between the different states. Having AMNESIA doesn't qualify as pain free! (especially since you people are restraining struggling and screaming patients. You know better than that.) Awake and alert isn't being an amnestic zombie. Cooperation isn't mindless "purposeful" obedience to commands. Being DEAD doesn't qualify as having amnesia either. How ignorant. You guys need to start acting like normal people and stop trying to redefine plain English. It makes you look sneaky and uninformed.